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August 31, 2007
Let's talk about Yarn Overs, shall we?
They drive me NUTS!
I would have had actual knitting content today, yes, I started a pair of socks, but had to rip them out because of today's topic.
I have lots of books.
I have lots of knitting books. (It's my hobby right? I don't golf...not that there is anything wrong with golf...I am getting away from topic here)
Anyway...
This is how I make a yarn over:
Thank you Vogue Knitting. Do you know how many types of Yarn Overs there are? I may be wrong here, but there are several. Especially in England. At least English patterns say what they are!
Yarn Forward (YF)
The yarn forward looks like the Yarn Over that I do already. Next we have the Yarn Round Needle (YRN). Whoa! Could this be anymore difficult? Sure, the picture makes it look SO easy!
Then we have the Yarn Over Needle (YON) Which looks the same to me as a Yarn Forward, but it's between a knit and purl stitch.
Thank you Debbie Bliss "How to Knit" for that.
Next I have the Domiknitrix Book. This is what totally got me out of whack. I hope it doesn't sound like I am dissing the English people I am not. I love that they call them different things! (your great!)
But it makes sense! Especially if I am knitting the Charade Sock from here (it's in the side bar). Yes this makes perfect sense now. NOT!
Here is one more Yarn Over:
Thank you Debbie Stoller, Stitch and Bitch Book. This is they way I make mine.
I am not sure if this little rant of mine made any sense, but I guess the question I have is:
When I slip the next stitch as if to purl, knit the next stitch, YO, pass slipped stitch over both the knit stitch and the YO, it doesn't work the way I do my YO's. But if I do them the Domiknitrix way it does. I guess I should just shut up, quit being a baby and suck it up. Right? Yeah. I thought so.
Oh and a big thank you to Smudge! He held up all my books while I took pictures. He didn't like it. He was not harmed in anyway durning this. He may tell you differently, but he wasn't.
Have a great Holiday Weekend!
Posted by beth at August 31, 2007 12:32 PM
Comments
From what you're saying, you weren't trapping your yarn over in the slipped stitch when you passed it over?
Because both the domiknitrix and the SnB are describing the exact same operation; Domiknitrix just shows the YO held at the back of the work.
BTW, the other terms like YRN and YON pretty much just describe how to do a YO in situations other than between two knit stitches. I personally think of them all as just YO's.
Posted by: Emily at August 31, 2007 01:48 PM
Well, if it makes you feel better, I don't make my yarn overs like ANY of those illustrations. So far, I haven't come across a pattern that it hasn't worked on. I think I'll stay away from Charade. Clearly this is a bigger deal than I thought! :-0
Posted by: Salt City Spinner at August 31, 2007 01:55 PM
Oy! Would LOVE to help you but I have NO clue how to do ANY YO's. :(
Posted by: Valerie at August 31, 2007 02:05 PM
Funny. I'm dong a pattern with yarnovers right now and couldn't for the life of me tell you how I do it. I've done at least fifty of them over the past couple of days. They all look fine, but I couldn't give a description if you put a gun to my head! Sheesh... Have a great weekend!
Posted by: Sheepish Annie at August 31, 2007 03:00 PM
Ummmm they all look the same to me except for that yrn.
Posted by: lisa at August 31, 2007 04:45 PM
Looking at those pics, the Vogue Knitting YO, the Debbie Bliss YF and YON, the Domiknitrix YO, and the Debbie Stoller YO's all look the same to me, and that's how I would normally do a YO between knit stitches.
But, the pattern that you're working on doesn't want to create the normal lacey holes that you would expect from a YO. The YO is only there to create the extra stitch that you're taking away from the PSSO so that the stitch count remains the same on each row, and since you're "trapping" the stitch, it takes away the lacey aspect of it.
So basically, it sounds like you're doing perfectly well on that pattern. Try it again, knit a few extra rows to give yourself a good portion to look at, and just inspect it to see what the pattern is trying to do. It may feel extremely weird doing it initially, but once you can see how it's relating to the final product... well, there's no stopping you then!
Enjoy your weekend!
Posted by: Sharon at August 31, 2007 04:49 PM
I just try to do it so there's a hole somewheres in there. It cracks me up that there are so many different ways of doing the same thing.
Posted by: Christie at August 31, 2007 06:35 PM
I had no idea yarn overs were so confusing!
Posted by: Kirstie at August 31, 2007 09:07 PM
O great...I think you made my brain fall out...
lol
Now I gotta think about yarn overs all night...
;0)
Posted by: Moon at September 1, 2007 12:07 AM
See I taught myself the YO the domiknitrix way. I never realised there were so many different ways to do the one stitch! But I should have considering there are different ways to do everything else!! :) Just to let you know I live in over here in England and Ive only ever seen YO wrote as YO and called a YO. why must people complicate things? Like DB calling it everything BUT! geesh!
Posted by: Jenn at September 1, 2007 04:22 AM
I think Smudge is saying "If you continue to abuse me I shall eat your yarnovers, thus keeping you from having such problems with them."
I just do the Dominitrix YO. Easy peasy!
Posted by: Laurie at September 1, 2007 07:58 PM
I always told you ya were doing your yarn overs backwards ::lmao::: But who knew there were so many different ways!!
Posted by: Mia at September 5, 2007 07:44 AM
Wow I had no idea! And I love the kitty. When are you coming down for a visit to the critters? Cara and I are going to get together for a steeking "clinic" soon.
BTW I have a knitting poll on my blog, come vote. I am astonished that so far no one knits for their spouse or SO, and I thought it was just me!
Posted by: Windyridge at September 14, 2007 08:37 AM
Hmmm, oddly enough your blog says that last comment from me was a first time comment? Doncha love technology?
Posted by: Windyridge at September 14, 2007 08:39 AM
